i would like to take the lead of a friend of mentor of mine, senator marco rubio, a moral argument and a fiscal conservative argument most especially from sochlt young people here that were brought as infants, perhaps, by moms and dads the valedictorians of the high schools, scar quarterbacks going to harvard and yale on scholarships. >> greta: how about the 12 million or so here illegally. >> i'm open for debate on it right now, i'd like to see senator marco rubio's lead on it. >> greta: and pass? >> and again, this is a -- number one, i think that --. >> greta: you're going to turn on-- and on the hot seat. >> am coming up next. we have-- what i don't want is something similar to what we talked about. surplus and obamacare, massive packages that are shoveled down the throats of the americans. we need to do it piece by piece and assess where we're at and what we can do to correct the situation. >> greta: and? >> i'll speak to both quick. obamacare i think a lot of that's going to collapse on its own weight. the president ran for reelection and the law hasn't been implemented. it's str